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Lydia Van Cleave's avatar

Once again, this great expression of emotion is a huge gender role reversal. Women would traditionally be thought of as the highly expressive ones, not men. I think this avowal of emotions ties in nicely with the point Jay made in his substack post about Troilus fainting- it is unique, and draws attention to Troilus's unique character. These two substacks read nicely together, and complement the individual arguments you are each making. Troilus becomes a more and more unique character, and this is only the beginning- much more craziness still yet to come!

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Abigail Ward's avatar

"Mercy, mercy"... you're right, men who knew Troilus in battle wouldn't recognize him here! I think Chaucer very intentionally selected Troilus' words to Criseyde, since Troilus would never plead for mercy on the battlefield. It helps to set up, like you pointed out, the double "battlefields" of war and love.

When I read about their first meeting, I made some notes about the way Troilus waxed neither quick nor dead, but only grew red. One thought is about the Biblical allusion that Jesus will return to judge the quick (or living) and the dead (from 2 Timothy and also the Apostles Creed). Why does Chaucer use that same language? Was it a popular turn of speech back then, or is there something more there? I really do not know.

But my initial reaction to Troilus seeing Criseyde, was that he isn't as dramatic as some other moments. He doesn't become very animated, and he doesn't faint as he does later (Jay's post on this was great!). He only blushes...and then proceeds with his customary dramatic-ness once he opens his mouth. I think I enjoy male characters who can express themselves but retain an air of mystery rather than hopeless naiveté.

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